Need Warning Indicator When Auto Log-off Occurs.
Last Update: June 22, 2012
I have been trying to finish and submit an article since last evening. I lost some of my work trying to get the pages to load due to my internet connection (which goes bad often,) but the worst instance occurred when I went to save the article! Having had this issue many times before, I generally make sure I save my work often...but that does get away from me when I get involved in the writing and I forget to backup my work before hitting the Save button.
I had written the remaining two-thirds of the article last evening, when I pressed the save button after having dumped what was in my head, here comes the login screen! Once this happens, there is NO way to retrieve the work, which is partially visible under the login screen atop of the grayed-out Rapid Writer.
After I logged back in, all I had was what I started with...
if one time wasn't enough, in my haste, I restored it (nothing like the original but perhaps better.) Without thinking, I pushed the "Save" button just like last night...there's the login screen again!
Back where I started...Hmmm...getting old.
It has taken me over an hour, pondering, trying to backtrack, and know that there's nothing I can do to get it back...
Logged back in.
Internet connection acting up...
My suggestion:
Is there any way to have a warning pop up when the system automatically logs out a member? Something like, "Warning! You Are Not Logged In."
I had written the remaining two-thirds of the article last evening, when I pressed the save button after having dumped what was in my head, here comes the login screen! Once this happens, there is NO way to retrieve the work, which is partially visible under the login screen atop of the grayed-out Rapid Writer.
After I logged back in, all I had was what I started with...
if one time wasn't enough, in my haste, I restored it (nothing like the original but perhaps better.) Without thinking, I pushed the "Save" button just like last night...there's the login screen again!
Back where I started...Hmmm...getting old.
It has taken me over an hour, pondering, trying to backtrack, and know that there's nothing I can do to get it back...
Logged back in.
Internet connection acting up...
My suggestion:
Is there any way to have a warning pop up when the system automatically logs out a member? Something like, "Warning! You Are Not Logged In."
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thesue
Premium
yeah buddy you have to COMPOSE elsewhere then you can take your time and get it right. Usually you then pop it into notepad to clean up the codes and then paste to whichever online site you are using. When you paste it in to whatever ezine Street or the WA writer, all you have to do is play around with spacing, get the bolds in, the links etc. Then you won't run out of time. Google docs is amazing, although sometimes slow, because you do not have to save it on a hard drive.... If I recall you use a library computer, don't you. You cn get your word count form Word or Google docs without RR---also when you upload from RR to Street it takes out all the spacing anyway, so you have to do all the work a second time. I just past directly to street and then at least I have my paragraphs :)
Also KW Jay may-be can confirm You just want them a couple times, like in the title near the beginning and end. Google want unique RELATED content so the associated words to your topic are just as important. You should be good to go in a 400 word artile with the KW three times :) Sue
Also KW Jay may-be can confirm You just want them a couple times, like in the title near the beginning and end. Google want unique RELATED content so the associated words to your topic are just as important. You should be good to go in a 400 word artile with the KW three times :) Sue
Daniel Euergetes
Premium
I have adopted:
Start in Wordpress, where I will think of a fairly large niche (iin my ongoing project now, "A Short History of the Camera.")
Determine all of the major points and blocks of information that need to stay together, creating a name for each point.
So (in this case) I wound up with 7 chapters. (later broke one down in two and had 8 chapters.
Do a basic
"Intro
1
2
3
Outro"
to each name.
I now have seven articles to start.
Go down through the bunch and create outlines for each.
Some will require more points, but if they do, they usually need to be broken down into two like I did with one of them.
Do research on each point from a main + at least two other sources. This should not take very long. It's enough to get the major points for each article.
Name the subheadings. and scrawl out the information from your head. It's now in your own words and persona.
Then...
Take one at a time...put it on G+Docs. This is where each article gets developed from the basic rough-out from notepad.
Get the article the way it needs to be in word count and make sure everything makes sense.
When this is done, I take a copy of it to Rapid Writer. I won't have any problems with login because the article is on there just long enough to get the keywords situated and look for remaining issues. Save a completed copy there, as it stands, before going forth.
Export to Street Articles where I do all the styling and add ONE link. The other is there but left un-huperlinked. One more quick check to see if anything has gotten by the editing process. (I have one article published now that two misspellings got by me because I did not bother to read it before giving it an image and submitting it.)
Edit each article when the one it is to link to has been published and is live. (need its url before I can put it in the previous article.) Once this entire process is completed, not only do I have x number of articles published in a short time, I also have a linkwheel.
It sounds like quite a process, but is actually quite seamless.
Bookmark everything...then...
Use platform sites to talk about the details in each article, something on each platform. The platform sites are an outer layer of linkwheels for each spoke of the inner one. You now have something that looks like a Ferris wheel...the major linkwheel with cars, each containing the smaller linkwheels.
Bookmark the platform sites.
It is very important that you LOVE what you are writing about because, sheer monotony will come and bite you an the ass. Believe me, there is almost nothing worse in this industry than to write volumes about something you are not passion about. It can become a most unforgiving situation.
Start in Wordpress, where I will think of a fairly large niche (iin my ongoing project now, "A Short History of the Camera.")
Determine all of the major points and blocks of information that need to stay together, creating a name for each point.
So (in this case) I wound up with 7 chapters. (later broke one down in two and had 8 chapters.
Do a basic
"Intro
1
2
3
Outro"
to each name.
I now have seven articles to start.
Go down through the bunch and create outlines for each.
Some will require more points, but if they do, they usually need to be broken down into two like I did with one of them.
Do research on each point from a main + at least two other sources. This should not take very long. It's enough to get the major points for each article.
Name the subheadings. and scrawl out the information from your head. It's now in your own words and persona.
Then...
Take one at a time...put it on G+Docs. This is where each article gets developed from the basic rough-out from notepad.
Get the article the way it needs to be in word count and make sure everything makes sense.
When this is done, I take a copy of it to Rapid Writer. I won't have any problems with login because the article is on there just long enough to get the keywords situated and look for remaining issues. Save a completed copy there, as it stands, before going forth.
Export to Street Articles where I do all the styling and add ONE link. The other is there but left un-huperlinked. One more quick check to see if anything has gotten by the editing process. (I have one article published now that two misspellings got by me because I did not bother to read it before giving it an image and submitting it.)
Edit each article when the one it is to link to has been published and is live. (need its url before I can put it in the previous article.) Once this entire process is completed, not only do I have x number of articles published in a short time, I also have a linkwheel.
It sounds like quite a process, but is actually quite seamless.
Bookmark everything...then...
Use platform sites to talk about the details in each article, something on each platform. The platform sites are an outer layer of linkwheels for each spoke of the inner one. You now have something that looks like a Ferris wheel...the major linkwheel with cars, each containing the smaller linkwheels.
Bookmark the platform sites.
It is very important that you LOVE what you are writing about because, sheer monotony will come and bite you an the ass. Believe me, there is almost nothing worse in this industry than to write volumes about something you are not passion about. It can become a most unforgiving situation.
magistudio
Premium Plus
Hi Daniel - I like to use google docs when writing content as it auto saves.
Daniel Euergetes
Premium
Hmmm. I never even thought about gdocs. Marcus introduced me to it. I forgot that it does autosave. I think I'm going to put the article I'm working on right now over there and play with it a bit. Thanks for the suggestion.
Daniel Euergetes
Premium
It also has wordcount which will help me get my articles about where I want them lengthwise before exporting to Rapid Writer to check kw density. GD is yet another place to store my articles and other content.
magistudio
Premium Plus
Yup! It is awesome, I also like the collaboration element to it aswell. A new feature which is also pretty sweet and may serve you well is the google drive application where all your docs can reside locally on your computer.
georgejhaas
Premium
I have experienced a similar situation. What I do now is write all my articles using Word or other application. Save it. Then, go to Street Articles and copy the document into the SA. I also do this for adding content to my webpages too. In this way, I will always have a backup of my content. Generally, when you have to rewrite anything, it is never as good as the first. Try it.
Daniel Euergetes
Premium
Normally I use Rapid Writer to monitor the length of the article and the keyword density. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't use it. It hasn't been a big issue, but it does happen at the worst times. Anyway, I will need to make sure my notepad copy stays current at all times.
Another suggestion would be to get Rapid Writer to autosave and do the same thing it does when manual saved...keeps a record of revisions.
I wrote the article again...three times now. It seems to be alright. I need to edit and make sure it is useful information. It's probably borderline, so it needs some sprucing. Some articles, I can literally write out in ten minutes. Others, like the one I just wrote, is like pulling a tooth.
Another suggestion would be to get Rapid Writer to autosave and do the same thing it does when manual saved...keeps a record of revisions.
I wrote the article again...three times now. It seems to be alright. I need to edit and make sure it is useful information. It's probably borderline, so it needs some sprucing. Some articles, I can literally write out in ten minutes. Others, like the one I just wrote, is like pulling a tooth.
Adi2008
Premium
Frustrating isn't it? It's happened to me before, but not at WA.
You could write your article in notepad (or another text editor), make all the editing tweaks you need to and then when you're happy with it, copy and paste it into Street Articles (or WA if you're blogging or writing a training resource).
If you have MS Office or Open Office, you can use the word processor app to compose your article and this has the added benefits of giving you a spell checker and word count.
I agree, a "countdown to auto log-out" would be nice to have, my online banking has it.
You could write your article in notepad (or another text editor), make all the editing tweaks you need to and then when you're happy with it, copy and paste it into Street Articles (or WA if you're blogging or writing a training resource).
If you have MS Office or Open Office, you can use the word processor app to compose your article and this has the added benefits of giving you a spell checker and word count.
I agree, a "countdown to auto log-out" would be nice to have, my online banking has it.
Daniel Euergetes
Premium
I normally do this, but this time I did the outline, and wrote out the first two paragraphs on Notepad. I decided to copy it to Rapid Writer and finish it there. At times I remember to copy what I've done there and have it aside in case something happens.
This doesn't happen very often, but lately more often. Usually I come on here, do it and it's all within the session, but I took a nap yesterday and then took care of work on a rooftop.
When I came back, I wrote out the rest of the article and BANG when I hit "Save" in RW.
I get very narrowly focused at times and the article was due yesterday. Here it is time to be doing the next one. This morning I tried to get it out before time for scheduled work sessions, and in haste, I did it again. My original post was a little hot. I've tamed it since.
The thing is, this can be avoided and would help if we had a little popup in the lower right of the screen letting us know. It doesn't replace backing up work, but is one more thing to help prevent data loss.
This doesn't happen very often, but lately more often. Usually I come on here, do it and it's all within the session, but I took a nap yesterday and then took care of work on a rooftop.
When I came back, I wrote out the rest of the article and BANG when I hit "Save" in RW.
I get very narrowly focused at times and the article was due yesterday. Here it is time to be doing the next one. This morning I tried to get it out before time for scheduled work sessions, and in haste, I did it again. My original post was a little hot. I've tamed it since.
The thing is, this can be avoided and would help if we had a little popup in the lower right of the screen letting us know. It doesn't replace backing up work, but is one more thing to help prevent data loss.
Chill85
Premium
Hi Daniel
I don´t have this issue here but i had it on other sites too from time to time.
I got used to minimum copy the text to my temporary clipboard (or whatever its called in english - klick in text field, then hit ctrl+a > ctrl+c) before i hit the save button anywhere. In case something goes wrong - I can relog and restore the text easy by inserting it from there (ctrl+v)
Hope this helps, even if it is no fix for your problem.
Peter
I don´t have this issue here but i had it on other sites too from time to time.
I got used to minimum copy the text to my temporary clipboard (or whatever its called in english - klick in text field, then hit ctrl+a > ctrl+c) before i hit the save button anywhere. In case something goes wrong - I can relog and restore the text easy by inserting it from there (ctrl+v)
Hope this helps, even if it is no fix for your problem.
Peter
Daniel Euergetes
Premium
Yes, I do this, but sometimes, when I'm in a hurry or am focused I do forget to do this. It is a great work-around, but if there was some sort of indicator that log off has occurred, one would not have to worry about doing this extra step all the time. The step is a safeguard, I know, but it totally slips my mind and before I know it, I've lost my work. WA is the only place I've seen this issue. It's not a huge deal, but it does get quite frustrating. I'm now behind on my work because I don't or can't always think of everything that hasn't been made habit.
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